I skied the 185 last year and found it decent stability-wise, but not amazing. Enforcer 104 the heaviest of the group but decent tail rocker and nice flex that's money for bumps and trees. Built with a poplar wood core and cork in the tips and tails, these skis have the energy and snap that the Stance skis dont quite have. Thanks in advance. I'm 5'10 and 150lbs, age 30 and a reasonably advance and aggressive skier, mostly in CO. It has some obvious freeski-influence in its design, loves natural features. Armada Declivity 92 Ti 1. Before switching to a snowboard I was skiing for 12 years. Because ski bindings are so precise, it's crucial to have them mounted to the BSL and not the Mondo Point. I'm having a hard time deciding. They're very narrow, and mostly camber, so not exactly a forgiving skiing experience for us non-competitive mogul skiers. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. While the previous ski on the list, the Mindbender 99 Ti, leans more to on-trail performance, this Salomon Stance 102 skews more to the fresh stuff. The construction of the Mantra marks the introduction of Volkl's new Titanal Frame construction. That long tip rocker also helps smooth out turn initiation on firm snow, helping you to link carving turns. I demoed both this year but on separate trips so I didnt get the side by side comparison I wanted. This is one of those O.G. This ski is one of the burliest on the marketwilling and capable to tackle anything on the mountain at high rates of speed. Rossi experience 94ti Thanks in advance! Hope that helps! I live in the North East and go to VT and NH a decent amount but at the same time take 1-2 big trips out West. Beginner skiers are classified as people who have never ever skied, right up to those just starting to dabble in Intermediate trails. (occasional Alps) and looking for a replacement to my Atomic automatics . Snow conditions weren't the best, but found them nimble in the trees. Be prepared for burly and strong performance overall. I was thinking the Nordica Enforcer 100, though maybe I should be looking at the 93. Awesome! Maybe you spend a little time in the terrain park, but don't want to be limited by a narrower ski. They work a bit better when engaged and in a higher edge angle turn versus flat. Mark, Hi Mark! The Atomic Backland Bent Chetler was one of the most sought-after skis in this lineup. I ski 50/50 east/west and generally stay within the resort. However, I think I would prefer a ski in the 98-102 range. Hi, thank you for great reviews, but the more I read I seem to get more confused with what I need. If you like skiing switch (backwards) you don't have too many options, especially out of the skis in this comparison article. Josh, Love the reviews guys and your youtube vids! Let me know if there are some good options you might recommend. 6ft, 205lb, 40 yrs, aggressive skier that skis almost exclusively east coast. I'd also put the Enforcer (probably 93, but you're on the 100 thread) on the list as more of a freeride choice with a sandwich sidewall construction and two full sheets of metal. Well, maybe not, but you get my point. The last time I demoed E100 it was a 185 (previous generation). The Enforcer 100 or the Ranger 102, on the other hand, both feel like great choices. Myself? The flex pattern and shape of the Pinnacle 95 Ti give it really good performance in soft snow. My son has the QST 99s and he loves them. I demoed the 106 QST's last week in CO, and really enjoyed them. I'm not generally carving groomed at really high speeds but need something that can handle all conditions for all mtn and then a suggestion for those deep days. I'm 6ft 210lbs and typically ski 50/50 east/west coast and 30/70 on/off piste - i tend to ski aggressively, but also like to play around in the soft stuff. I think you'd find the QST a lot of fun, but maybe limiting, especially given what you've been on for five years. I'm aggressive on-piste and more moderate off-piste, especially in narrower chutes and trees. This gives it a great feel on firm snow as you get full length edge contact, however the M5 Mantra is impressively maneuverable in softer snow conditions as well. I currently own a pair of 2013 Rossignol Soul 7s, 186, and a pair of 2014 Volkl RTM 84, 177. Let us know if you have any other questions! Overall, you'll find more similarities than differences between these three. From nose blocks and butters to tail stands and nollies, these skis are built and shaped to handle the most creative freestyle ski minds on the planet. But I want something fun for powder/all mountain. In addition, the skis have that rocker profile to help with the drifty aspect of the ski, and it ends up resulting in a shorter turn shape and a quicker and more agile quality. SE, Hi Matt! The two skis Ive narrowed it down to are the Enforcer 100 in 185 and Mantra M5 in 177. Ok, so maybe not the best, but you certainly could be a contendah, kid. I'm 40 year-old, 5'8",170 lb male skier who likes to spend most of my time in the trees, off-trail or diving into powder. Think about it alongside the Origin 96 and the Ranger 102 FR, although its construction gives it arguably a more playful feel than either of those skis. We're looking for your Mondo Point size, and the conversion is easy! Update: We compare the Bent Chetler 100 to the Line Sick Day 104, Nordica Enforcer 100, Black Crows Daemon, Rossignol Soul 7 HD, Faction Prodigy 3.0, Fischer Ranger 102 FR, Blizzard Rustler 10, and more. View the Atomic Bent Product Line View all Atomic All-Mountain Wide Skis. Love the reviews. Intermediate: Congratulations! I always skied on frontside skies(65mm 80mm underfoot) until last week I rented a pair of Kastle FX85 Alpine Skis(2017). Yes, theyre twin tips. I'm 6'2"- 205lbs. I have little to compare to other than a dedicated onpiste type ski like the Volkl RTM models. They're 104 underfoot and have a turned-up tail (but not a true twin-tip) and they are tons of fun. SE. You could, however, argue that the Bonafide just accepts skier input a little more easily than the MX 99. (I have to mount my BC 100 but afraid may be to soft? The result is a "boost" in the ski's power and stability, but the overall feel of the QST 99 stays more or less the same. It's not the most demanding ski, but it's also not the easiest. About the product One of the most award-winning skis to ever grace the mountain, the Atomic Bent Chetler 120 is a pillow-bashing, powder slashing ski legend. Will ski pretty much anything, anywhere on the mountain and prefer exploring off piste then zooming around on groomers all day (70/30). The Ranger 98 Ti falls in between those to, although in my opinion it's a little closer to the M5. With a slightly longer than average turn radius of 20 meters in the 178 cm length, these skis make for a great choice in the bumps and trees, while the metal underfoot and through the tail allow for proper carved turns on firm snow. I still ski on a 1998 Salomon Super Force 92S in a 203 from time to time, so I'm right there with you. QST 92/99, Rustler 9, Enforcer 94/100, M5 Mantra. Like I said I loved the bonafides in comparison to the line chronics but am afraid I am going to lose all the playful and poppy aspect if I go the stiff charger route. What ski would you recommend? This ski just keeps on chugging along. Myself? Keep in mind that there shouldn't be a decimal (ex. Thanks! I think the 184 is a bit of a reach. In the 183, this ski generates a 23-meter turn radius, so its one of the most direct skis that well see. Willkommen bei unserer vollstndigen bersicht des Fritschi freeride. With a more forward mount (plus 2cm maybe) it becomes more playful and fun in the trees. The QST 92 should be at the top of your list, as should the Blizzard Rustler 9. Hi Rafal! I use a pair of Nordica Soul Rider 87's for skiing with my kids, but that's on the extreme of maneuverability. SE. Almost all of my resort skiing is woods or bumps, a playful/surfy ski style, but I enjoy laying into a turn too. Atomic BENT CHETLER 120 Skis 2023. The 186 would work but 191 would make for a great cushy ride unless the new construction focuses this size (191) as a big plank for the 1 percenters. Skiers who spend most of their time on groomed terrain but like a wider-bodied ski for both stability and versatility. On paper it seems to be basically an Enforcer with more modern materials and thus a bit lighter and hopefully nimbler. If you're looking for a quick turner with a soft-snow personality, the Sky 7 is a great choice. Armada describes this ski as a 1-ski quiver you can take anywhere from the resort to the backcountry, and we agree. SE. HI Hiserski! I'm 6' 185lbs advanced skier but ski expert runs at Palisades and Jackson Hole. They rip on the hard packed groomers but like I said I am just not in love with them. I tend to avoid mogul runs. Sidecut extending beyond the rocker is one of those things that they keep talking about that doesnt really make a lot of sense until you ski it and realize what a precise and fun-loving ski this is. It uses a wood core made from silver fir and beech, sandwiched between two full sheets of titanal metal, and finished with carbon and fiberglass. For the weight, though, were impressed with the stability and energy out of the ski, as Heads use of carbon is pretty effective in generating an impressive strength to weight ratio. Therefore, the Unleashed may be a little more approachable than the Enforcer. We're looking for your Mondo Point size, and the conversion is easy! What would you suggest? We're about the same size, and I loved the stability of the ski, even without two sheets of metal. Hey guys What would be the pros and cons of each, relative to each other and maybe more importantly relative to the Enforcer 100 (which I still will ski)? Black diamond, double black diamond, centuple black diamond, it doesnt even matter. Hope that helps! For skate skiing, poles should be a bit longer. Hi SE, I've tried the M5 Mantra in a 180 and liked them but felt the tips were a little too soft and edge lacking a little firmness on hard-pack, otherwise a solid all around ski. While carbon doesnt quite have the same type of flex pattern or energy damping properties as titanal, it does have a bunch of energy built in, allowing it to be a great material that does a bulk of the heavy lifting. You are looking for the nicest skis ever made. Fits well! Hi Tom! I'm looking for a 1-ski quiver. Ultimately, with this ZX 100, its all about the tip shape and profile, and how they combine to handle the softer snow. I've skied it here in VT in about a foot and a half of light, dry snow, and it floated great, so unless you're in bottomless, I don't think the slight flotation advantage of the Rustler is worth the sacrifice, especially when it comes to on-trail performance. Hi Jon! I skied my Bent chetler 100's yesterday in the snowy woods, and I don't think there's a better ski out there for that application. Finding your Boot Sole Length (BSL) is easy. Im looking for an A/T ski to pair with Shift bindings, approximately 100mm under foot. So there might be some powder, some crud, or the moguls might get skied out to become fairly icy; there's only so much soft stuff one gets to see inbounds during a holiday week. Hi Christophe! Both sound good for your application, but I think you're going to lean towards the Atomic. Along those lines, I also really appreciate the K2 Pinnacle 95 and the LIberty Origin 96 as lighter-weight alternatives to the Enforcer/Bonafide heft. Look forward to hearing your thoughts. Have fun! Are you not considering the Mantra in the 184? The Enforcer was smooth and quick edge to edge with decent float but not super stable at high speeds and the Kore 105 was fun with good float although lacking true carving ability on firm snow and was easily deflected in chop. Im 6'0, 200lbs. Any help would be great . Good level. I am an advanced skier @ 6' and 175lb and live in the Midwest, so the typical conditions that I see are hardpack to icy, with occasional soft snow. But currently I'm looking for a one-ski quiver that will be maneuverable enough for some quick tight turns but will also let me float a bit in the soft stuff and hold a carving turn or two at mid-speed when required. Certainly quicker than the Enforcer, the Ripstick makes a strong turn as well. After doing some research and reading through your advice to others, it seems like the the Kore 105, Salomon QST 106, K2 Pinnacle 105, and Blizzard Rustler 10 might be what I'm looking for, but I can't decide if I want a heavier or lighter ski. I think the best thing to do here is to get a ski that blends the power and precision of the Mantra with a more playful, soft-snow oriented ski for your sidecountry and soft snow adventures. Thanks! I just demoed the Mantra M5 184cm at Park City. SE. I'd get on the Origin 106 too if you can, you might be surprised by that ski. I think the combination of them being wider and longer helped a lot. Do you have a suggestion, including length for my size and weight? In a lot of ways, the Bonafide is quite similar to the MX 99. I'd say the Experience and Rustler are a bit more user-friendly while the Mantra has a leg up in terms of carving and edge grip. I also love aggressive short turns and carving at high speed. I have been skiing all my life and I am still fairly aggressive, albeit slowing down a little each year. I've got a question where I'm not sure whether it's time for new skis this season. Hi SE, Fischer also uses a very thin tip construction by integrating carbon into the ski's construction. This, combined with the vertical sidewall underfoot tapering to half-cap in the tips and tails makes for an incredibly versatile ski that is properly built for the everyday advanced skier. I demoed the Salomon QST 99 in the 188 length last weekend and really enjoyed them. That gives the Enforcer 100 excellent vibration damping and stability, but because the metal is thinner it softens up the flex a little bit from tip to tail. Thanks so much for the reviews! I'm willing to give up a little of that speed on the groomers for something that I can turn /float a little while in powder. But I still want something so that I can be aggressive / ski off-piste crud and powder when I want. What would you recommend? I am 40 years old, 5ft 9inch and weigh 235lb. Ski Expert. Much like the previous Kastle MX 98 on this list, the Enforcer 100 absolutely demolishes crud and chopplowing through it like its not even there. It's relatively lightweight, but feels a little heftier than some of the really lightweight contenders in this list. For more stability at speed, that does come at the price of weight, the QST is a great ski for sure. More of a plower than a dancer. Our Verdict. This guide is for Alpine Skis. We do see the ski drop a few millimeters in the waist as it gets narrower, so make sure to take that into account if this ski is on your list. Any ways, I am looking for some help, guidance and/or opinion on what I should focus on. Rather fit for a fat old man. Hope that helps! In the past few years, I've started loving going off-piste, so I've been looking at some wider skis, but I still spend time on groomers because that's where my friends are. Skill wise, youll be able to control your speed with snowplowing, wedging, or forming a pizza. Any recommendations as far as length would also be appreciated. Looking for Some Guidance? Who it's For: Salomon added basalt and doubled the amount of carbon and flax in the QST 99 for 2019. It's not the most powerful or more precise ski on firm snow, but it's no slouch either. My friend who got me into skiing (my favorite activity now) didnt help me at all and said buy what you think looks cool, which I have come to realize was terrible advise. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. With minimal rocker and taper to the ski, it does hook up easily, but if youre looking to glean the best response from it, you are going to need to put in your own effort as well. Your boot sole length is the actual length of your ski boot, in millimeters. Blizzard Brahma 88 3. The tip is a bit different of a story, with the spoonier shape leading to better floatation. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Hope that helps! Now I'm confused, I'm looking for a ski like the Kore that will absorb the big blows in chopped up snow, vs throwing me. Keep in mind that there shouldn't be a decimal (ex. SE, Your email address will not be published. Have fun! The Fischer Ranger 98 Ti is another ski that bridges the gap between weight savings and stability. Thanks, So I'm always teaching. This time, we're doing the same thing, but we're looking at 100 mm skis! 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