I've got my pompoms ready to cheer you on!!!! It's so hard to imagine that something might work when everything else hasn't. This seems really high to me. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. 6500 N. Mopac (Loop 1) Expressway Building 1, Antagonist Protocol or Short Protocol: This is the most commonly used IVF . Success with Long Lupron Protocol for DOR ? They also recently found scarred tissue on my lining. Initial was 12. Not attempted transferring anything yet. Thanks! I hope this helps,I conceived my son naturally on 50 mg clomid at 39. 0000003164 00000 n This is the protocol Im planning to try next (after a cancelled antagonist protocol that only yielded 2 follicles). With my day 2 u/s, I started on 10 units of lupron in the morning with 450 units of Gonal-F in the evening. We started IVF due to MFI, i did a long lupron short stim cycle last month and it failed due to being a poor responder. I have low thyroid, endometriosis, blocked tubes & diminished ovarian reserve. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Second retrieval was agonist with lupron, and we ended up with two decent quality embryos (3BB, 4BB), one of which became my newborn daughter, who I am currently breastfeeding. . It seems to be . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Have you transferred? I never imagined having to get to #4, but I know none of us do. Two fertilized and on Sunday I find out how many I am carrying. I'm 43 and DOR. What felt "cookie cutter" was that despite my great day 3 tests, RE put me on microdose Lupron flare protocol with 300 units of Follistim (150 twice a day). I'm praying this protocol will be successfull for us. Since then its been a nightmare to thicken my lining. Or tips on handling side effects? I just got my calendar today and I'm getting ready to start Lupron. But I believed we switched because of not getting eggs. So Im not sure how that changes for you, since you were able to get eggs. Hi ladies,My RE proposed for my IVF#5 the micro flare protocol with BCP priming. I stimmed for like 15 days, got 5 eggs, 3 fert with icsi, all disintegrated basically, no blasts. GL! The patient is given twice-weekly injections of estradiol valerate (Delestrogen) for a period of 8 days whereupon COS is initiated using a relatively high dosage FSH- (Follistim, Fostimon, Puregon or Gonal F), which is continued along with daily administration of GnRH antagonist until the "hCG "trigger." A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. During the first few days of Lupron, the ovaries are stimulated by the natural pituitary hormones (the flare . The other thing is they tell me that with microdose your retrieval is later. SCHEDULE. ?Put back 2 day 5 embryos and now I am here. So i'm hoping in the downtown I can get my eggs up to good quality! My husband doesn't even want donor eggs, so.donor eggs.might.not be an option for now. Unfortunately, one of them did not thaw successfully. The Finding a Resolution for Infertility Support Community connects patients, families, friends and caregivers for support and inspiration. This will be our 2nd IVF. I am hoping and praying that all 4 make it to day 5 for. Once down regulation was obtained, the lupron dose was decreased to 0.125 mg daily and gonadotropin stimulation was initiated. hi, I did it at age 38. G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s. My first stim cycle was Antagonist and we actually did cancel ER. I have no input on EPP but I am so excited you're starting up!!! Our issues: low AMH (0.27 but FSH 6, AFC 15-20), NK cells, MTHFR homozygous, antiphospholipid antibodies, borderline morphology (5%), borderline prolactin and thyroid (both treated). I did my first IVF at 39 got 3 embryos with one pgta normal. xb```"V2>c`0p40. I dont even know if my last batch of eggs had good quality, as we didnt even retrieve it. Advanced Fertility Care Injection Teaching Videos. My cycle "might" be cancelled. So, I'm 39 with Amh of 0.07 (undetectable) and FSH of 9. We retrieved 8 eggs and 8 were fertilized. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. I have had 3 failed medicated IUIs, 5 egg retrievals with 3 transfers. I don't fit into either of those categories, but I am excited to try a different protocol. I feel sort ofdetachedI didn't expect to feel this emotion, and I'm sure it will shift, but.who knows. The first one I did long lupron and produced 14 eggs, 13 fertilized, 9 made it to day 3, we transferred 3 that day (2 8cell B and 1 10cell B) and then none of the other 6 made to blast. Reproductive medicine fertility society of . Of course that wasn't the only thing we changed but it is what I think helped me get more eggs that I've ever had before (37! Adding Cetrotide. For how long was the MDL given ? Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. Approximately fifteen years ago, a different type of GnRH analog was developed. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. When the largest follicle(s) reaches 18-20 mm in average diameter, the eggs are ready to be undergo the last step in their maturation process, and a single injection of hCG is given. Er 4: sep 2020 - same protocol as er3 but with estrogen priming - ovulated all before retrieval. Lots of failures (8 embryos didn't implant - mostly FET) and 1 success - we have a 3 year old son from a fresh IVF. Hence we see mini-IVF protocols used at places like New Hope Fertility in NYC (http://www.newhopefertility.com/?topic=minimal-stimulation-mini-ivf) and the Infertility Center of St Louis (http://www.infertile.com/closlook/biograph.htm); and, 5/15 Final u/s showed 5 follicles, stimmed for 2 weeks but ovulated all during retrieval. 0000001169 00000 n What my clinic is proposing, however, is starting. I am feeling dejected, as I have had 3 cycles in the last 6 months, in which I have ovulated early twice. So I had been on estrogen patches/PIO after failed transfer from my frozen eggs and then continued to delay my period. ?? Only 4 eggs were mature and 4 fertilized with ICSI. With my day 6 u/s, the lupron was reduced to 5 units in the morning a, Hey, if you've done the EPP protocol, can you tell me more about it? Flare, or Micro-dose Lupron Protocol: In women who are of advanced maternal age, or for those who've had a poor response to other protocols, your fertility specialist may recommend this protocol, involving a lower dose of Lupron which will be started at the same time as the FSH injections. IVF #2 Nov '118R/8M/4F 3dt x2 - chemical, IVF #4 Jan '13 BFN 11R/6M/6F 5dt x2 - BFN, IVF #5 July '13 16R/10M/10F 5dt x2 + 1 frostie. High FSH. -DOR diagnosis. April '14 Planning IVF attempt #3. I did 10 days of BCP, then Lupron, repronex and Gonal-F for about 10 days. She has already been prescribing me an aggressive protocol (microdose Lu, So a little bit about me. I have no idea if that's true but it gave me hope and made me feel better. He's also prescribed microdose lupron, gonal, low dose hcg, and pregnyl. Anyone done this protocol? Long Lupron protocol. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. So now we are dealing with issues on my side and i'm only 26 years old. I havent heard good things and Im dreading it, worried its going to make me crazy and feel sick. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. Doc consult at the end of this month. So, yes, you can have better results the second time around and I really hope thats true for you! my clinic doesnt do growth hormone which Ive always heard good things about it. Previos Post Next Post I'm gearing up for my 4th IVF cycle next month. My last two cycles resulted in only one embryo viable for testing which in the end were aneuploid. Hopefully they know what they're doing! Apparently we waited too long ? Previous studies comparing E2 priming and leuprolide flare IVF protocols report that E2 priming protocols result in longer cycles and higher total gonadotropin dose with similar oocyte yield, fertilization, and pregnancy rates; though, one report suggests a trend toward higher quality embryos in E2 priming cycles. Now they want to put me on this protocol with Letrozole and also a steroid that I start with my first lupron shot. 1Frostie. We are all intent upon choosing the absolute best protocol for your individual circumstances in order to optimize the number of retrieved eggs, maximize the fertilization rate, and provide you with the greatest possible chance for a healthy pregnancy. I did estrogen priming with no BCP for this cycle (in addition to several other changes). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 0000006342 00000 n 28 years old, first IVF cycle cancelled?! I am a little concerned that I am supposed to take 300 iu's of Gonal-F. Estrogen Primed Antagonist Protocol. Only 1 retrieved, which didnt fertilize. We knew we wanted more kids so we started trying again when he turned one. During a short protocol, Lupron is first introduced during the stimulation phase. If so, I'd love to hear thoughts/experiences. Thank you. I'm going to talk to the doctor soon about our options. Info about me: I'm 33, DH 31. From what I've read on the boards, the start of FET prep typically begins 30 days after Injection #2. I just finished day 4 of gonal, microdose and letrozole. Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 They removed 11 eggs, made 8 embryos, none made it past day 3. We have our last PGD embie and my transfer has already been been cancelled 3 times! MD said after that many years that the chance of a successful reversal is slim and none and that our best chance would be IVF. 16 22 This is primarily because of the unpleasant side effects: mood swings, headaches, and hot flashes. Hope it makes the difference for you! Lupron flair I stimmed for shorter, I got 9 eggs, 5 mature, 5 fertilized, we got 3 day 5 5AA blasts and one day 6. Has anybody here had an experience with this protocol and was it successful? Hi. I h, 5/15 Pressing Forward Dr. C apologized for the fucking nightmare of a cancelled cycle, and implied that maybe the other doctor we were seeing in the practice should have put the breaks on way before day 10 because there was LITERALLY NO RESPONSE. Changes I made to get better quality eggs and a BFP!. What was your protocol before? Get weekly updates on baby and your body. Your nurse will phone you with instructions by 5:00PM this day. 4. Sept. '13 - We will try again with EPP. At my age of 42, I am praying for more than 7 or 8 eggs and better quality for PGS testing. As access age, Tarlatzis BC. Just checking in to see how you did with the flare protocol. I didn't respondall thatwell to my Follistim-Ganirelex protocol during IVF #1 and my RE told me today he's going to try this for #2. And I wasnt pregnant. Thoughts on different protocols? Thanks! My husband is 39. Hi, I'm 40 did my first IVF in October with an antagonist protocol (AMH 4.86). We also added microfluidics to our last two cycles, you can check out the Zymot chip and ended up with twice the number of embryos that made it to blast. Had 20 eggs retrieved. HB 132 & everything measuring on track. I wont be using birth control, just starting lupron a week after ovulation. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. Thanks for all your responses! Good luck on thursday. 1 10cell Grade 4, 1 8cell Grade 4. Significantly fewer eggs than follicles? sudden, severe decrease in blood pressure and collapse. An EPP for EVERYONE!!! Read Review Toronto Licence Claim Delta. In 2018 after 4 rounds of ivf I had my daughter. I'm about to start a microdose lupron flare cycle tomorrow! I went through Dr. Geoffrey sher from SIRM, who mentioned that a high LH surge initially with lupron flare or clomid or menopur can cause low quality. After the 6th negative pregnancy test, they did a "pregnancy loss" bloodwork panel. Thanks in advance! IVF 1 - on BCP protocol. 1Frostie. %PDF-1.4 % So, I'm 39 with Amh of 0.07 (undetectable) and FSH of 9. Lupron, a GnRH agonist, is one of the best known and most hated of IVF treatment injectable fertility drugs. So for this 3rd FET my dr has added in estrogen injections. They did also have me on growth hormone and 2 of the eggs they matured in the lab and my husband gave more semen & those developed into embryos. 0000001323 00000 n Hi Again, 8 days of stims and I had 1 lead follicle and 2 other measurable ones. I'm 42 y/o and had my 2nd egg retrieval on 4/16. I don't remember my protocol. I did microflare lupron after being diagnosed with elevated FSH. IVF#4 (Dec2013/Jan 2014): Microdose flare+Saizen+testosterone 4 eggs retrieved, all mature and fertilized by ICSI, ET of 1 6-cell embryo an 1 8-cell embryo graded 2 and 3. At 43 I see now looking back it truly is egg quality. Only thing I can pinpoint is age. Aug. '13 Attempt at IVF #1 with Lurpon Flare- Canceled due to ovulation through Lupron. EDD 5/11/14, Jack dx at 19w1d with Dandy Walker on 12/16/13, Severe Pre-e /HELLP set in Jack born sleeping at 20w1d on 12/23/13, FET #2 --July 2014 BFP! I wonder what if that's the cycle that had the normal egg. How do they decide? Long Lupron protocol. I did do both natural start and primed and my response was the same. Lower doses like 300 iu follistim didn't work for me. 8Cell 1Grade 2Embies. Moving to IVF Does any have any experience or feedback with this treatment plan?? I would like to know if any has been on the EPP/ MDL protocol ? I.always prepare myself for the worst news whenever I go in for my uktrasound. This treatment protocol is known as a "microdose flare." The initial injections of Lupron stimulate the pituitary gland to secrete its own natural FSH and LH (aka a flare), in addition to the FSH and LH you get from the other two injectable fertility medications. 43 &37 eggs?! I am 42 and after 1 failed IUI and 1 failed IVF, I am now starting my second round IVF with the lupron flare and ICSI. My RE wants to use a lupron microdose protocol. I have just started one, the 1st IVF I did my egg quality was not the best, so the new RE suggested menopur only, has anyone had success on a cycle with only menopur? Lupron microdose protocol. In order to retrieve the eggs before they ovulate spontaneously, the patient is taken into the operating room and the eggs are removed non-surgically approximately 36 hours following hCG administration. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. Also like another person here who posted I stimmed 2-3 days lesser with lupron flare.. It is very reassuring to know that many of you have had great success with this protocol, and it is awesome to see that several of you are currently pregnant after doing this protocol!! Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. Any success stories for low responders of Estrogen Priming cycle? Kate's IF Blog. fainting. Beta #1 @ 10dp6dt = 265; Beta #2 @ 14dp6dt = 1251. I'm 36 & TTC 2 yrs. I often find myself feeling really hopeless. 9 eggs retrieved, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 1 arrest on day 3, the other arrested on day 5. Has anyone done this Lupron STOP protocol? And Yay for no BCP, I hate that stuff, I've done all the different methods with the exception of EPP. Earnest Letter. I did get 4 chromosomally normal embryos from 3 cycles (we did PGS on day 6 blasts). We got pregnant with my first IUI, but miscarried within 2 weeks. 0000017159 00000 n We had 3 failed IUIs- great response, great sperm count, great progesterone, then negative. DH and I have been TTC for 4.5 years or so: From what I have read, it is common in women with DOR and poor responders. All my cycles were at age 34. Now I wait for day 5 and then onto to PGTA testing. Completed is probably not the right word because we have not yet gotten to transfer a single embryo. . Good luck! BzeetyD = 38, Mr. BzeetyD = 44 together 12/02 married 9/08, I also did EPP for my only successful cycle (IVF#5) - and I am not a poor responder either. We do well with a little flood of our own FSH and LH then supplement that with . Best of luck to ya and I hope your next cycle proves 'the one'!!! How are you feeling? No matter how you got here, we understand where you've been and where you're going. But after the estrogen my 3 follilces seemed to be more closely matched in size. 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