- Femina Sola Gratia Is she a false teacher? I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart . Looking back over my copy of He Speaks to Me,and sifting through numerous videos of her teaching, its clearthat her method of teaching is mainly eisegesis. CARM has done articles on Beth Moore, Joyce Meyer, and some other well-known false teachers, which Ive linked to in other articles. i listen to Dr. Tony Evans and i love to hear him preach, he is a good pastor and knows the word of God, so i do not understand why all this negativity about his daughter, i agree with the bible about women being pastors, and she is not a pastor according to how much i know about her( i only know about her from war room). If you wouldnt follow a male pastor or Bible teacher who was open and unrepentant about committing adultery or shoplifting or getting plowed every weekend, why would you follow any female Bible teacher who preaches to and instructs men? MAIN TEXT: MATTHEW 14:15 If you are also then do we not have the same Holy Spirit to counsel and teach us? Genesis 24:15-20, Denomination:
Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. Thanks for stopping by! INTRODUCTION:
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- Jonah 2:10. Do you send women to your articles as a response?. Mark 7:31-37 I dont know half of your theological terminology, And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. You should learn from us not to go beyond what is written in Scripture. Youre more than welcome to join the study if youd like. Just put the books aside and pick up His word and study it for yourself. It is called cross promotion. Untold millions of Christians over the last two thousand years have studied Gods word, grown close to Him, matured in their faith, and walked faithfully with Him throughout their lives. "Those from among you will rebuild the ancient ruins; You will raise up the age-old foundations; And you will be called the repairer of the breach, The restorer of the streets in which to dwell. When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray, He taught them: Pray then like this: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html. Again, just because its your opinion that theres nothing wrong with it doesnt mean its OK if the Bible says otherwise. Also your references in Matthew do not apply, and sadly this out of context mess gets regurgitated as much, if not more so, as Matthew 7, and the whole Do not ever judge crowd. My previous comment with the links was in answer to questions that you asked. Church Of God, CARE MINISTRY WITH THE MESSAGE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IMPORTANT, CALLED TO CARE That is not what the Bible says that preachers and teachers are to do. to me she lacks conviction of the word I dont hear it; she reminds me of Joel Osteen and thats not a compliment. I dont follow TGC any more. As Christians, we are to follow and obey Gods written word, the Bible, not our own opinions. We're called to not live by our feelings but by faith ( 2 Cor. Why didnt you just study your Bible instead? Our new series is designed and I believe inspired by the Holy Spirit to show how Christianity is not just about going to church on Sunday morning. We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. I thought parables were a kind of means to read yourself into scripture? I do not think the bible says anything about women speaking in public as long as their not pastors, and she is not talking to men she is talking to ladies. Hi Tiffany- Thanks for asking! Id be interested in hearing what Tony Evans says about his daughters doctrine. You know, your making this comment right now is very interesting timing.
(I remember when I was a missionary to New Guinea back in the 80s, the missionaries were teaching us how to reach the unsaved New Guinea nationals by telling simple Bible stories, and stories of how our lives were changed by Jesus. And the Bible says that women are not to preach to or instruct men, or to hold authority over men in the gathered body of Believers, the church. Evangelical/Non-Denominational. The last verse was a warning; this is an encouragement. Im sorry, Im a little unclear. Tonight at church he came up and thanked me for sharing and said he hated that these studies got past him. The result is that those doctrines and beliefs often conflict with Scripture because theyre not based on Scripture but a fallible personal experience. Priscilla often uses poor hermeneutics when handling Gods word. Could you point to me where Priscilla suggests that we empty our mind? We only get to have the opinions of Christ as stated in the Bible. 2And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: (Also, lets please try to keep things friendly and polite, OK?). https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christ-centered-silence-for-noisy-advent-season. How do we respond to those who are new Christians and who still "smell" of their former sinful lives? Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 Thank you, Michelle! The silence he describes in the paragraph titled Line 1 could easily be construed to mean mystical/contemplative (i.e. However, from time to time, I get people who comment or send e-mails pretending to genuinely want help just so they can get their comments published and who then proceed to argue and twist Scripture in subsequent comments. Its a complete waste of time. He was one of the founding fathers of the heretical Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation movement and a mentor to Ken Copeland, whos also a Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation heretic. Accused is a very loaded, and in this case, inaccurate term. 2 Kings 5:1-15. This is a two part lesson as we consider are we going along que sera, sera?
I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, but in my mind, if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. The reason I refer people in on line conversations to my articles is so I dont have to regurgitate what Ive already written. And His promises will never let you down or disappoint you. She admits it. You are very kind and encouraging :0). Besides the short paragraph you provided on Lisa Harper in the list of other not-recommended teachers, do you have or know of any other good info/reviews on her? read more, Scripture:
I've done this so that you can learn what it means not to go beyond what has been written and so none of you will become arrogant by supporting one of us against the other. When the angels had gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds began saying to one another, "Let us go straight to Bethlehem then, and see this thing that has happened which the Lord has made known to us." Mark 5:32 Verse Concepts And He looked around to see the woman who had done this. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. My article, Jill in the Pulpit examines 1 Timothy 2:11-12 (the clearest and most concise passage addressing this topic) in context and explains it (in what I hope is a clear and understandable way- if not, please feel free to let me know if you have any questions). It will be called the good shepherd calls. God knew what He was doing.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. A. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. Job 36:26 Verse Concepts but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. I'll start.I'll share with you 2 Scriptures that have given me soooo much comfort and encouragement these past few days and then I'll anxiously wait for you to share what Scripture(s) you have been meditating on lately, received a ton of comfort and encouragement from and/or used to encourage someone else. She seems somewhat self righteous. If a big guy writes against a LifeWay person, he might not get anymore invitations. Remember what Hebrews 5:12-14 says: For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. With all that said, I do not say any of this out of ill intent, anger, or anything along those lines, I simply wanted to clarify, and say, that I agree with Michelles exegesis of (Matthew. There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? Romans 8:24 For we
The law in this case, being Scripture. Ohmygoodness!!!! If not, she does not know the Bible well enough to be teaching (James 3:1). Run as far away from both of them as possible. Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! BEYOND ENCOURAGEMENT I can tell that just from your comment. Its not about doing good works to get myself into heaven, like going to church every
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I wish this particular writer would have more clearly defined what he means by silence. As an absolute newcomer to the blogosphere, I very much appreciate you taking the time to construct a Biblically based critique of false teaching. (Edited to add- After I posted this comment, I noticed your comment was addressed to Seth Dunn, not to me. Wow! They both willingly, and without reservation, preach to co-ed groups all the time. *It's always a good idea to look back over life and think about the people who have made a difference: People who helped us in a time of need. Romans 16:17-18 tells us were to mark false teachers and avoid them. Yes, thats basically the requirement for salvation, but Christians are required to obey ALL of Gods instructions, including the ones about not joining with people who call themselves Christians yet hold to teachings and beliefs that conflict with Scripture. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. (And if you need any help getting started, Ive got some resources that will help you under the Bible Studies tab at the top of this page.) Maybe references other than S. Michael Houdmann (I think Michael does a very nice job on his website but he and his wife started GotQuestions.org after he claims to have received a vision from God to help others and by your own admission, visions and feelings are not Godly direction.) Or and be .. Like you, I also dont understand why believers behave the way they do- taking to task those who stand firmly upon the truth of Gods word instead of rebuking and rejecting false teachers such as Priscilla Shirer, when this is so clearly what Scripture says to do. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. TRUTH AND LOVE Im so happy for you that you have a discerning pastor. It was stated, that the big name pastors are no where to be found when standing against these deceptions. All of the resources and links Ive included are from credible sources (The disclaimer at the top of the list simply means I have not read everything ever written by every single resource Ive listed. Remember, Scripture, not our ideas and opinions are what we must follow and obey. THE CALL? My exact words were: I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. Since I made that comment, Ive seen several endorsements of Priscilla Shirer and her materials by Tony Evans, so I guess that tells us his perspective and the fact that hes not very discerning. What we believe about that is irrelevant. If you have Priscillas contact information and can get her to talk to me (Ive attempted to communicate with her several times and have been ignored), I will be delighted to discuss this issue and the entirety of this article with her. The problem at the Colossian church (the reason Paul wrote this epistle to them) was that false doctrine was starting to creep in. This was very interesting thanks for putting this out there. What Priscilla and so many others do is pretty much the opposite of a parable.
People Listen In Different Wayscan You Reach All Of Them? Otherwise, it appears this is a form of gossip.. Beth and Priscilla both disobey this biblical instruction. I really dont want to study scripture with/ from someone who is knowingly sinning by leading His lambs astray. Priscilla has also admitted in her book Discerning the Voice of God, p.39, that she reads herself into Scripture, an unbiblical practice sometimes called narcissistic eisegesis or narcigesis. - But such as is common to man; rather, except such as is human; i.e. 5:7 ). Michelle, what do you think about this article? (Yikes!). Grayson Baptist Church - July 28, 2013 Romans 4:18. Yes, all of this is important, NO it is not vital. There is only ONE requirement for salvation, and that is accepting that Jesus Christs blood took the place of our sin, recognize our sin and confess it, believe that Jesus is Gods son. Lord, thank You that You are the Good Shepherd and You speak and we hear Your voice. I am curious, have you confronted Priscilla Shirer of this sin. Astonished Beyond Measure Now, reading your post, I see that your words against her work and I do not understand why believers behave the way they do against fellow believers. Pentecostal. Holy cow! unbiblical) meditation. Michelle Thank you for your work in the area of discernment. We are committed to teaching the uncompromising truths of His Word. Have been vetting her this was very helpful! Theres plenty of video evidence of it and witnesses who could testify to it. Unfortunately, they depend on LifeWay to deliver sound material. Please see the links to our EXTRA Bible Study notes at the bottom of the page.
She does teach and preach to men whether I say she does or not. With continuous prayer, we have decided to proceed with her study but with open eyes to the objections you brought up. Thats a rare find these days. GO FIGURE? Your sermon reminded me about Peace of God and Love
Amber, you seem like a very dear sister, and I love you.
If you could give me some rightly handled, in context, chapter and verse Scripture to back up your opinions and beliefs, we could talk about it. Thats very wise, and I respect that. Olga Souders As I mentioned in my comment, I was here with my wife, completely of my own volition, in no way did Michelle do anything unbiblical. Reblogged this on Eternally Secured and commented: Yes, there are many more examples of Priscillas poor handling of Scripture in the Additional Resources section. No-one is beyond compassion. on her, one of them probably will. read more, Scripture:
on Fighting for the Faith, True Woman Conference Speaker Priscilla Shirer Hears Gods Still, Small Voice at Apprising Ministries, Priscilla Shirer and Contemplative/Centering Prayer at Apprising Ministries, He Speaks to Me (April 24, 2008) promo video by Priscilla Shirer, War Rooms Priscilla Shirers Contemplative History, and Why ItMattersat Berean Research, Review of Priscilla Shirers Sermon: The Multitude by Chris Rosebrough, Priscilla Shirer- Mystic by David Sheldon, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017at Emergent Watch, Priscilla Shirerat Fighting for the Faith, Fervent Warning on Priscilla Shirerat Christian Answers for the New Age, Why I do not recommend Kendrick Brothers new movie, War Room, part 2 at The End Time, War Room: A Review by Justin Peters at Worldview Weekend, Stand Firm: A Review of War Room at Satisfaction Through Christ, Reblogged this on Seth Dunn and commented: These women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. All you need to say is simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. Our faith is rock solid if we have placed it in Godthe unchanging, perfect, eternal, sovereign One. Also, if you will read the article hyperlinked at the very top of this article, right underneath the title, where it says, If youre considering commenting it will answer your objections- with Scripture. I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. This is a very good reason not to sit under their teaching. And the only way to do that is to not only study/read the Word of God in its *entirety* but believe and apply it. You may have loved her in War Room and want to buy her books. All of these people are proponents of the false and anti-biblical Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) doctrine, and the Jakeses are also modalists. Your objection is most likely answered here. 15 Outstanding Quotes To Recharge Your Preaching. I shared this post on Facebook the same day my new pastor friend requested me. 4. They teach a false hope that will eventually let you down and disappoint you. Jesus did that too, so did Samuel, so did Elijah . Often, when readers express their disagreement, they do so in a very vicious and attacking way, so I really appreciate it when someone politely expresses herself. First, just because youve never heard of someone doesnt mean hes not a credible source (likewise just because someone is well known doesnt mean he is a credible source). This title is taken directly from the text; verse 37 tells us that the people were astonished beyond measure. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. (This is where the video above ends. I dont know half of your theological terminology, but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. Michelle, One of two things happens: either Im ignored altogether, or one of her underlings gets back in touch with me to defend her. Thank you, Daisy. But books and blogs written for women are not what 1 Timothy 2:12 refers to, and its not the same as willingly allowing men to attend (which is something Beth and Priscilla both do) an event where a woman, in an authoritative position, is teaching Gods word to believers, or accepting speaking engagements that are open to men. If you dont trust the evidence Ive presented here, I encourage you to do your own research. I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another.
Also, the small sources dont have skin in the book and lecture circuit game. Wow, I found Ms. Shirers book Fervent very helpful and uplifting. Ive read her own account explaining this. Jesus had employed many graphic analogies using common things that would be familiar to everyone (https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-parables.html).
Romans 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. The youtube video you offer here in your post is not available and Id kind of like to see what you were talking about. Evangelical Dark Web. He wants you to learn good theology and sound doctrine. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. What is certain is that Paul, in saying, "do not go beyond what is written," was not teaching sola scriptura. Then you won't arrogantly place one of us in opposition to the other. Do you think the stretching feels good? I am not sure that the Gospel Coalition is a credible source. This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. Ive fixed it (as well as a few others that have expired). None. Im sure you can find other examples on YouTube if you need them. God made you capable and smart enough to read His word in a systematic way, understand it, and grow from it. #4b- this is supposition on your part. Yes, thats correct. Thank you again. One example that best showcases Priscillas penchant for eisegesis and poor hermeneutics can be found in this promotional video for her study,One in a Million: 0:46-This same God was supposed to be speaking to me, teaching to me, making Himself relevant to mein the regular rhythms of my everyday living. Go beyond putting ourselves first. We would be unified around the truth of Scripture. Good News Translation For your sake, my friends, I have applied all this to Apollos and me, using the two of us as an example, so that you may learn what the saying means, "Observe the proper rules." She begins most lessons with a story or personal experience, uses these stories to formulate her own spiritual principles, and then adds in a smattering of Bible verses (often out of context) to support her ideas. NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. 5. One thats not a promotional tape? God bless you, and keep up the good work sister! On October 16, 2016, Priscilla and her husband, children, and mother were in attendance at T.D. As far as Priscilla, I am unsure of this. And this faith is . Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. Priscilla and her husband of 22 years, Jerry Shirer, lead Going Beyond Ministries through which they provide spiritual support and resources to the body of Christ. Day and night they go around her upon her walls, And iniquity and mischief are in her midst. - People coming out of sinful lives dont usually smell good. In a day and age where any type of hope is needed, especially to the unchurched, I would listen to either Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer any day of the week over the news. If you believe women shouldnt work, this includes you. Bushnell Assembly of God
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